Okay, game on! Question meme for Vincent Nightray, Serah Farron, Persephone, and Dream! I reserve the right to tilde at you when it comes to either of my personae, though moreso with Dream.
tell me all about the progression of Vincent's Thoughts On Kamui and how it's changed from when Kamui arrived to the last time we threaded? (AKA RELATIONSHIP ME)
Also, thread with me again :( I got you your wine and pillows
Aww, man, you're asking for me to remember a lot there . . . Umm, I can try!!
So, like I said, Vincent was a bit closed off when it came to new Iolites. He's learned from past experiences to let them sit down and settle themselves without any influence before he starts to figure out where they fit into the team. He took advantage of Spitfire when he first arrived and that blew up spectacularly. Then, Hibari was always a conscious threat . . . Once burned, twice shy!
In this way, Vincent ended up being rather wary of Kamui. He already proved that his personality was still highly malleable by shifting from vitriolic to something altogether more passive. (And Vincent can appreciate the need to put on airs, more on that later.) Still, without trying, Kamui managed to win Vincent over by being such a genuinely thoughtful and caring person, someone who loved without reservation or a thought to his own well-being. Vincent is an asshole who will use that sort of behavior without any regard, and he has already thought of it!, but he is also endeared by people who can be caring towards someone else, especially when they have the force of experience that does make them wary of getting slighted.
Noteee: Obsidian came to Aather and was wary, then he was won over by Yuta giving him his name and Vincent offering him food. Then, he was completely smitten with his team. So, the parallels were rather strong there. And considering how strongly Vincent feels towards Obsidian, any parallels with him is a marked favor . . .
T-The game with Mother only compounded it all. While Vincent loathes Mother, the timing of that game worked completely in Kamui's favor. There are a lot of factors involved, but the gist is: 1. Vincent was mad that Yuri went to the game, so he was feeling slighted in that regard which meant he pulled for something else to focus into. Ta-da, there were new Iolites~! 2. It strongly established the relationship between Vincent as having power and Kamui being a less able and capable member. Not that Kamui hasn't done make that point strongly on his own, but having it put into clear perspective like that makes Vincent more comfortable to initiate a relationship. He likes his dominance, okay.
So, the shift was marked! Vincent has been reeling back his more questionable behaviors because of a tussle with Gil, but he was more physically affectionate, open and comforting to Kamui without reservation. He doesn't talk in games or confusing pattens as much, while being more patient and likely to explain in an understandable manner. If Vincent gives Kamui any more favors, it will likely be where he uses Kamui and his logic as a place to touch ground with like he does Obsidian . . . But that may be some time coming. Still, Kamui ranks pretty high in Vincent's list, atm.
AND THAT IS TEAM WINE . . . Vincent can get booze whenever he wants, cough. And pillows. ////////
awww vince <3 hooboy THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT (mostly because I don't quite get it either but) let me try...
okay so kamui started off with nothing except the memory that people are trying to kill him and obviously that is bad. so he was angry and terrified when he arrived and also, DRAGON. He doesn't really have strong impressions of that first day because...it was a lot of people and there was a monster and a dragon and everyone might be trying to kill him and he can't remember jack shit... But he does remember that Vincent used Common Sense on him and that he was very comfortable with the dragon, which helped him a surprising amount get over how uncomfortable he is with Obsidian.
But then as he settled, he grew into putting his trust in Iolite (+fuuma) since they're what surrounds him and that's...good. comforting. what he knows. And of Iolite, he's most comfortable with Neji and Vincent-Obsidian (THEY'RE KIND OF A UNIT OKAY) because they seem to be the least...idk how to put it. They don't really make a big deal out of him being new(ish) and they're pretty stable existences, which is what he needs. Steady, I guess, is the word I'm looking for. That's what keeps Kamui most comfortable, so he tends to gravitate towards them. He does enjoy Spitfire and Jaina's enthusiasm and appreciates their care and how they seem to, almost?, make an effort to include him and know how he's been doing and helping him, but they can be too...happy? for him.
And then with Mother's game, Vincent was, again, a steady influence and a comforting presence and was just always calm, which helped keep Kamui calm. And, honestly? Kamui thinks Vincent was more than kind to do what he did during the game, since...his own ideas were a whole lot more violent. So that made Kamui respect Vincent even more. And also Vincent didn't really make a big deal out of his little breakdown when he remembered his mom dying, so. That's also a plus, since someone else being emotional would've just fed into his own and he prefers being calm since the only extreme emotions he really remembers feeling (after growing up) are negative ones: anger and fear, primarily, along with adrenaline and a strong desire to hurt someone.
I think Kamui is afraid of himself, in some ways. Huh. I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT BEFORE.
Neji and Vincent had a talk about Fuuma and Kamui, so they are aware that he's from the same place . . . Mm, and the relationship might be ~rather complicated~ if Ruby's tendency to bundle is to be believed . . . Which it is. They show their biases so easily.
okay so they've uh. they've kissed twice. the first time was due to the memory-sharing mistletoe: kamui moved to kiss fuuma on the cheek and he turned to catch lips. second time was while kamui was trying to fulfill his quest and fuuma randomly kissed him. :X
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Also, thread with me again :( I got you your wine and pillows
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So, like I said, Vincent was a bit closed off when it came to new Iolites. He's learned from past experiences to let them sit down and settle themselves without any influence before he starts to figure out where they fit into the team. He took advantage of Spitfire when he first arrived and that blew up spectacularly. Then, Hibari was always a conscious threat . . . Once burned, twice shy!
In this way, Vincent ended up being rather wary of Kamui. He already proved that his personality was still highly malleable by shifting from vitriolic to something altogether more passive. (And Vincent can appreciate the need to put on airs, more on that later.) Still, without trying, Kamui managed to win Vincent over by being such a genuinely thoughtful and caring person, someone who loved without reservation or a thought to his own well-being. Vincent is an asshole who will use that sort of behavior without any regard, and he has already thought of it!, but he is also endeared by people who can be caring towards someone else, especially when they have the force of experience that does make them wary of getting slighted.
Noteee: Obsidian came to Aather and was wary, then he was won over by Yuta giving him his name and Vincent offering him food. Then, he was completely smitten with his team. So, the parallels were rather strong there. And considering how strongly Vincent feels towards Obsidian, any parallels with him is a marked favor . . .
T-The game with Mother only compounded it all. While Vincent loathes Mother, the timing of that game worked completely in Kamui's favor. There are a lot of factors involved, but the gist is: 1. Vincent was mad that Yuri went to the game, so he was feeling slighted in that regard which meant he pulled for something else to focus into. Ta-da, there were new Iolites~! 2. It strongly established the relationship between Vincent as having power and Kamui being a less able and capable member. Not that Kamui hasn't done make that point strongly on his own, but having it put into clear perspective like that makes Vincent more comfortable to initiate a relationship. He likes his dominance, okay.
So, the shift was marked! Vincent has been reeling back his more questionable behaviors because of a tussle with Gil, but he was more physically affectionate, open and comforting to Kamui without reservation. He doesn't talk in games or confusing pattens as much, while being more patient and likely to explain in an understandable manner. If Vincent gives Kamui any more favors, it will likely be where he uses Kamui and his logic as a place to touch ground with like he does Obsidian . . . But that may be some time coming. Still, Kamui ranks pretty high in Vincent's list, atm.
AND THAT IS TEAM WINE . . . Vincent can get booze whenever he wants, cough. And pillows. ////////
Reverse me!!
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hooboy THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT (mostly because I don't quite get it either but) let me try...
okay so kamui started off with nothing except the memory that people are trying to kill him and obviously that is bad. so he was angry and terrified when he arrived and also, DRAGON. He doesn't really have strong impressions of that first day because...it was a lot of people and there was a monster and a dragon and everyone might be trying to kill him and he can't remember jack shit... But he does remember that Vincent used Common Sense on him and that he was very comfortable with the dragon, which helped him a surprising amount get over how uncomfortable he is with Obsidian.
But then as he settled, he grew into putting his trust in Iolite (+fuuma) since they're what surrounds him and that's...good. comforting. what he knows. And of Iolite, he's most comfortable with Neji and Vincent-Obsidian (THEY'RE KIND OF A UNIT OKAY) because they seem to be the least...idk how to put it. They don't really make a big deal out of him being new(ish) and they're pretty stable existences, which is what he needs. Steady, I guess, is the word I'm looking for. That's what keeps Kamui most comfortable, so he tends to gravitate towards them. He does enjoy Spitfire and Jaina's enthusiasm and appreciates their care and how they seem to, almost?, make an effort to include him and know how he's been doing and helping him, but they can be too...happy? for him.
And then with Mother's game, Vincent was, again, a steady influence and a comforting presence and was just always calm, which helped keep Kamui calm. And, honestly? Kamui thinks Vincent was more than kind to do what he did during the game, since...his own ideas were a whole lot more violent. So that made Kamui respect Vincent even more. And also Vincent didn't really make a big deal out of his little breakdown when he remembered his mom dying, so. That's also a plus, since someone else being emotional would've just fed into his own and he prefers being calm since the only extreme emotions he really remembers feeling (after growing up) are negative ones: anger and fear, primarily, along with adrenaline and a strong desire to hurt someone.
I think Kamui is afraid of himself, in some ways. Huh. I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT BEFORE.
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Also, gimme a question. :U
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YES.
NO.
lkasjdfgd smack if you want details I guess
HOW MUCH DOES VINCENT KNOW ABOUT FUUMA other than 'from same place as kamui'.......
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Neji and Vincent had a talk about Fuuma and Kamui, so they are aware that he's from the same place . . . Mm, and the relationship might be ~rather complicated~ if Ruby's tendency to bundle is to be believed . . . Which it is. They show their biases so easily.
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okay so they've uh. they've kissed twice. the first time was due to the memory-sharing mistletoe: kamui moved to kiss fuuma on the cheek and he turned to catch lips. second time was while kamui was trying to fulfill his quest and fuuma randomly kissed him. :X
...yeah.
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AND I CAN'T FIND IT BUT IT DID HAPPEN. Neji and Vincent pragmatically keep a watch on all of Iolite. They take care of business.
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I CAN TAKE PERFECTLY GOOD CARE OF MYSELF.